The other big transformation was within research itself. All really strong research universities have gotten an entity whereby the each, each school is deep and strong in its own research field and its own postgraduate studies field. But there is a whole college, also a School of Graduate Studies which ties everything together and becomes both a clearinghouse and a coordinator of all these programs. So these two are the most recent creations that I think that I hope will go on. Howard Thomas also, probably when he wrote the book. The interviews I had with before we created our SMU-X, which is as you know it SMU-X with collaboration with industry and with people who are students getting together at a fixed time and having very intensive periods where they work together with industry. I guess what I've tried to do all along is with every new president coming in. I tried to have a dialogue with them and say, imagine today is the last day you’re with university. Your ten years already finished five years, eight years, ten years have already past. What would you want to be remembered for? So that really clarifies a mind. You go in with the beginning and the end as a beginning. I don't have the luxury of time of being here forever. What do I want to leave as my legacy? Think of one or two big projects. So for Arnoud, it was SMU-X and the graduate school. For Lily, she's just barely started, and there’s really been in the School of Integrative Studies and research and a few more big things she wants to do. So with every president there has been an opportunity for me to collaboratively discuss where do we want to go with the university. And that's how it's been. So these are the new things that have happened since the first interviews I did, which was I think largely only dealing with our success as an undergraduate university.
